The Good and The Bad and The Genesis Code

February 21st, 2011

The world is just so simple when you are a creationist. Even the most complex of situations, only need a bit of prayer and then POOF everything makes sense. Check it out!

Is your mom dying of pancreatic cancer in a coma in the hospital while her loving parents (your grandparents) want to turn off her life support so that she can die in peace?

Add a little prayer and POOF!

All better!

Does your bible insist that the world was created in six literal days approximately 6000 years ago in spite of the clear scientific evidence that the world is actually billions of years old and has evolved through natural selection to it’s present state?

Add a little prayer and POOF!

All better!

Is there a really hot hockey jock at your college who you totally want to marry and have seven babies with after a completely chaste dating period whereby you only touch by accident and only under parental supervision?

Add a little prayer and POOF!

Married, preggers and going to a totally awesome mega church with hockey jock husband three times a week!

All it takes is just a little faith, a little prayer and very little use of your brain…

Comments

  • Anna:

    That thing looks like a hell of a mess. Who is the hero, yea ok I know the christian is, just working a cramp out of my fingers. So ok physics students and christians are proving the big bang agrees with the bible, huh. Won’t be seeing this one.

  • bPer:

    I’m a science geek and an amateur astronomer (my pseudonym is the designation of a star). What really annoyed me about this trailer was that even in this snippet of the film, they gave wrong and inconsistent numbers for the age of the universe. Two supposed “physics whizzes” got it horribly wrong. The figure of 13.7 billion years has been stable since at least 2003. There’s no excuse for this sloppiness. Couldn’t the producers/writers do a moment’s-worth of Googling to get an value that reflects what a real “physics whiz” would actually say? .

    Then again, their focus was evidently on preaching, not science. They really don’t care about the truth; they just want science to kow-tow to their ancient silly myth.

    I’ve got news for them – ain’t gonna happen.

    βPer

  • I don’t think I’ll be running to see this movie.

  • LucyJoy:

    I’m gonna make a bee-line away from the theater to see this flick. Yech.

  • Jennine:

    In the end, this doesn’t matter. Jesus is returning May 21, 2011:
    http://www.ajc.com/lifestyle/billboard-campaign-claims-jesus-771570.html

    I am REALLY tired of Christian bullsh*t.

    • PegK:

      This is why if you are near Wichita on May 21st you should plan to attend “Rapture Day!” You too can experience the joy when we all get together to finally say goodbye while listening to some terrific speakers.
      http://www.raptureday.org/schedule.php

  • It’s showing at less than 20 theaters and that will probably be the height of it’s distribution. They also have to offer coupons for $5 tickets on their site to induce people to see it.

    Nothing about this represents an honest attempt to address the conflicts between science and religion. The fact that they continually got the age of the Universe wrong shows that they have no interest in what the scientific arguments are against them. This is just wishful thinking about the way they wish things would be. They come up with the conclusion ahead of time and make up facts to fit. On their website they make a big deal about all the politicians that were at the premier and one of them made a Freudian slip and said “This is a chance for us to see a movie that has a positive spin, a Christian world view, and some answers that a lot of us have…” Yes…you already have the answers…and you just want to see a movie that reinforces them.

    There is also a message about the evils of the liberal public college professors who want to take away peoples religion and their academic freedom.

  • Wow, the extended trailer is even more ridiculous! Neat!

  • Cheyenne:

    Oh, if only this movie had come out a few years ago, maybe I would have seen the error of my ways. Alas, I fear it is too late for me now. All I see is a cheesy, poorly done movie, but that’s probably just because God has hardened my heart now that I have turned my back on Him. Oh well, I guess I’ll just have to continue to ignore all of the logical points made in this movie. I’m sure it will strengthen the faith of others (some of my family members come to mind).

  • WVKay:

    I love it how our Lord only answers certain people’s prayers. I prayed faithfully for our Lord to watch over my children, and yet still, I lost a son. I guess I wasn’t good enough.

    • Bridget:

      Wow, WVKay. I am so sorry. What you said just put a stop to the rage that was starting to build in regards to religion, ignorance, evolution, etc. Seriously, my heart and love go out to you. I am so sorry.

  • Um, did anyone else notice that the main characters look a lot like Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson?

    AND! They got the mom from, oh hell, what was the name of that show… Seventh Heaven!

    A couple of years ago, I would have loved this movie. Now…meh. I’m not an atheist, but I’m firmly [and very newly, like in the past month] agnostic and really enjoying my life for the first time in fifteen years.

    • Rechelle:

      Congrats on entering the Agnositc camp Shelbi. It is amazing how unshackling one’s life from religion allows one to enjoy life so much more.

    • bPer:

      Hi Shelbi,

      Congratulations on becoming agnostic! There are many here (besides Rechelle, of course) who know the liberating feeling of finally acknowledging that you no longer believe.

      If I may, do you call yourself agnostic because you’re no longer sure whether the god you believed in actually exists, or have you lost belief in all gods but are reticent to label yourself an atheist? If the former, you’ll find some reading recommendations that Rechelle made about a year ago in the archives here. If the latter, it’s understandable, given the vicious demonization of atheists that occurs in our culture.

      BTW, I’m an atheist, but I’m also agnostic! Agnosticism is wrapped up in the issue of knowledge (vs. belief), and since I cannot ever know for certain that no gods exist, I am agnostic. The vast majority of atheists (including all of the prominent ones) are actually agnostic atheists.

      Best of luck in your journey ahead. It can be an exhilarating and immensely rewarding trip!

      βPer

      • Well, I’m certain that the christian god isn’t real. And if he is, he’s an asshole and I don’t want anything to do with him anyway.

        My faith started falling apart quite a while ago [maybe eight or ten years]. I went from Fundamentalist [still can't believe I was such a judgmental jackass] to liberal christian, to borderline agnostic, back to Orthodox Christianity [the ones who were around during the great schism, before protestantism started], back to liberal [and really hoping he was real] and finally, agnostic, bordering on atheism.

        I can’t quite make the leap into out and out atheism, and a lot of it has to do with the fact that I have a bit of an obsession with the supernatural. I’m too ‘woo-woo’ and completely un-rational to be an atheist. It doesn’t bother me enough [yet] that I can’t prove god exists to not believe there’s something out there.

        And, if I’m being honest, it’s kinda scary to me to think that I’ll just disappear when I die. That bums me out. Although I have noticed that when I think that way, I want to suck the marrow out of life and live every day like it’s my last, which is a very good thing that I want to continue, but it borders on panic, and I don’t like the anxiety and fear of death that inevitably comes and jacks up my day.

        What finally sent me over the edge was the startling realization that I’d been believing in a religion that, at it’s core, is based on fear. That god claims to love us unconditionally, but only if we accept his son…which by definition is a condition.

        I’d been struggling with walking away for a while, and I googled ex-christian or some such, found myself on ex-christian.net, and read a story by a girl who had read “Conversations With God” by Neale Donald Walsche. Now, NDW is probably a big jerk in real life, but I liked the book because so much of it was stuff that I’d more or less known my whole life, but had buried in an attempt to conform to christianity [some of it was stupid, too, but there was no pressure on me to believe the dumb shit. Yay!].

        I learned to trust my gut again and was shocked to find that my gut was telling me christianity is total bullshit. I’m still reeling a bit from the whole thing ’cause I didn’t expect it, at least not consciously.

        I was so blind for so long and I can’t believe that I ignored my BS meter for fifteen plus years. Y’all know all about the BS, so I won’t go into it. I lost myself, though, and I spent a very long time clinically depressed because of it, wondering why I couldn’t get it right [duh. 'cause it was wrong! sheesh].

        So I’ve been reading your blog for a few days, Rechelle, ’cause I was googling again [this time, it was 'former christian'] and your apology letter popped up and I about fell out of my chair, because many of the things you wrote were things that I’m sorry for, too.

        I ‘came out’ to my husband the other night [he was raised a Christian, and will probably be one until he dies] and I was reminded again what a good job I did picking him out. :)

        It’s his mother I’m not looking forward to telling. Sheesh. Break out in a cold sweat just thinking about it. Unfortunatly, I’m not good at hypocrisy, so it’s just a matter of time till it happens. BTW, you might hear the blast where you are, Rachelle. I live in Missouri [used to be in St. Joe until a couple of years ago] and his family lives in KCMO.

        Not sure if I’ve answered your question, or not. I tend to ramble, and this is new enough that it’s all I want to talk about, and there’s no one here to talk to…all my friends are christians. Lemme see if I can focus for a minute. :)

        I think I’m agnostic in the sense that I still believe there’s something out there. I’m pretty sure he/she/it could care less which faith I choose, or if I choose any at all. I may explore some more religions and see if any of them ‘feel right’ or I may just take a bit from here and there and moosh them all together.

        Or I may not. I’m kind of enjoying the break from spiritual things. It may end up being enough for me to believe that there’s something out there and leave it at that.

        That’s where I am right now. If there is something after, cool. If not, it’s not like I’ll know it once I’m dead , so who gives a shit. The thought of some kind of life after death comforts me now, because there’s no threat of hell for me, and none of my dead loved ones went there, either.

        The strangest thought just hit me, I just realized that I am finally free to love others unconditionally, with no strings attached, which is what I knew I should be doing when I was a christian but couldn’t [because it wasn't the reality in christianity, no matter what people said and glossed over]. Holy shit!

        Sorry. These epiphanies just whack me in the head from time to time, and I’m always slightly shocked that my NON-christian brain has managed to figure out something I never could put into practice when I was a christian. Did you guys have that happen? It’s weird.

        Thanks for listening to my ramble, and for helping me feel not so quite alone.

        • bPer:

          Hi Shelbi,

          Thanks so much for your great reply! To answer your concern, yes, you answered my question. Sorry for the delay in responding, but I’ve been struggling with how to comment without producing a book (I tend to be long-winded). Here goes.

          On loneliness: Perhaps ‘alone-ness’ is a better word. It was my own sense of being alone as an atheist that drove me to search the Internet for others like myself. Sound familiar? We don’t have the institutions of religion to turn to, but very vibrant virtual communities have sprung up to fill the void. I started out in the skeptical community (another group about as misunderstood as atheists) at the JREF Forum, and then drifted away into blog communities like this one.

          On epiphanies: Yes, epiphanies can only happen when your mind is engaged and now that you’re forced to think for yourself, expect more of them. It’s part of what makes this so exciting.

          A word of warning though. Actually, a quote from the brilliant physicist Richard Feynman: “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.” He was talking about doing science, but the same principle applies here. You’ve come to realize that you let yourself be manipulated by religious propaganda. It happens, and you’ve learned a valuable lesson. Remain vigilant as you explore other religious/spiritual claims.

          On habits of thought: I mean this in two ways. First, having only just abandoned faith, you probably still have vestiges of religious ways of thinking. In particular, religions encourage belief without evidence (faith) and uncritical acceptance of authority. Both are hugely harmful. I can’t tell you how many time my religious family, colleagues and friends have uncritically accepted the most ludicrous ideas – some that can be debunked in a few moments. When they act on those bad ideas, real harm is done to themselves and others. Now that you’re thinking for yourself, the risk will diminish, but be constantly on your guard. Remember Feynman!

          Second, it takes time to rid yourself of all the religious baggage. When I finally gave up on faith, I didn’t move to deism or pantheism (two concepts it sounds like you’re exploring right now); I went right to atheism. I’m not suggesting you do the same (you have to find your own path), but like you I had problems with the thought of my mortality. All I can say is that with time, those misgivings have evaporated and I’m comfortable now with the thought that this is all there is and when I die, I’m gone.

          On the plus side, it was good riddance to one of the other pieces of religious baggage – the cosmic Big Brother watching your every move went poof! No more worries about dear departed Aunt Millie watching you and your husband do the nasty in between sessions of harp-playing and God-praising!

          One last thing (this is way too long!): You’ve stumbled upon what looks to me like a perfect fit in Rechelle’s blog. You already know about her apology letter, but I recommend you work your way through the following 3-4 months of her blog after that letter. You will get lots of insights from her and her commenters, as well as see just how badly the theists reacted to her coming-out. She seems to have settled into a comfortable place with her atheism now and doesn’t post much about it, and that should be encouraging to you too – this uncomfortable state you’re in now will pass soon enough.

          Best of luck and I look forward to more comments from you to come.

          βPer

          • Heehee, bPer. If you couldn’t tell by my last reply, I tend to write books too. Thank you so much for your excellent reply, though.

            I got a little more in depth with my husband the other night, and I’m pretty sure I well and truly freaked him out. He’s about as mellow as they come, though, so there’s no drama, just little comments here and there.

            I’m not sure where I’ll end up, spiritually speaking. The freedom that’s come from not worrying so much about what God thinks [and oddly, I don't worry about what Christians think of me nearly as much, either] has been profound.

            Like you said, this is still super new to me. My parents weren’t christians in the strictest sense [my mom was into the occult and ouija boards and all sorts of interesting things :)], but my grandmas were and they both did their best to pass on their doctrines.

            After I converted to christianity, I did my best to convert everyone I’d ever come into contact with, including my parents. Unfortunately, I somewhat succeeded with my mom, who then proceeded to jump off the deep end with all sorts of AntiChrist conspiracy theories, not to mention the incessant watching of Fox News, which makes me want to vomit every single time I go to their house. I have some guilt there, to say the least.

            The de-converting is probably going to take some time. There is a whole lotta oddness in my brain right now. Thank you for being a voice of reason in this chaos I find myself in. :)

        • Rechelle:

          Shelbi! Thanks for sharing your story. So many of the things you said are exactly what I have gone through as well the past three or four years. It really is amazing when you realize how much religion controlled how you felt about people. When I was a Christian I considered myself to be a superbly loving person, but the truth was that I was really only willing to love people outside of my faith from the perspective of ‘loving them into my religion’. Which is not really love at all. It’s salesmanship. Fortunately, I was not a very good salesperson and was always desperate to be ‘normal’ even though I was also desperate to be a ‘good Christian’ and these two things can’t really exist at the same time. I remember when I first realized that I was an atheist, I felt like I had unhooked myself from the matrix – just like in the movie. And I looked around and saw reality for the first time ever. The whole world was different. I no longer had to operate according to a bizarre and antiquated operating manual. I could make up my own rules. I am still making up my own rules. I’ve always been pretty good at making up stuff. :)

          • Wow, Rechelle, every time I read part of your story, I think it could be me writing it. I suck at sales, too, but I guess the trying has taught me that there’s really no way to convince anyone else what’s true if they don’t already half believe what you’re saying. Thankfully, I’m not trying to convert anyone anymore, and I don’t have to feel guilty about it, either.

            It took me fifteen years of trying desperately to live a holy life and failing miserably, and thinking over and over, “There HAS to be more to this than what I’m experiencing, ’cause this sucks ass,” to finally be able to let go of it and move on.

            I know there’s a process, and I’m beginning to suspect I’ll end up being an agnostic atheist [a term I've fallen in love with, by the way] but right now, I’m not quite ready.

            One nice thing, though, is that I don’t feel any pressure whatsoever to try to sell my version of the truth to anyone else. That’s what I’m circling around today, anyway, and it’s so awesome to know that I can just love people because I want to, not because I want to change their mind about something, and not ‘in spite of’ their ‘sin’ because there’s no such thing! How freakin’ cool is that?!? Yay! *does a little happy dance at the keyboard*

    • Congrats, Shelbi! I too, know where you’re coming from. I think my experience has been a little bit easier that some because I wasn’t raised in a religious home; my mom was a ‘creaster’ at best. There have been times in my life when I felt that I *should* believe something, but I always ended up feeling empty. Nothing felt right until I abandoned the idea of praying to an invisible man in the sky completely. I realized I was resenting him for a long time; if he was so great and so loving, why does he allow so many on Earth to suffer? What is the lesson in pain, grief and misery? At any rate, once I realized that I simply didn’t believe in the concepts of heaven, hell, god or the devil, my life got a lot easier.

      Watching the documentary ‘Jesus Camp’ this past weekend confirmed to me that I had moved my life in the right direction. The movie made me both angry and sad for the kids shown. I’d love it if they could go to a summer camp that would de-program them.

      • I watched “Jesus Camp” when I was still a Christian, and it made me squirm in my chair. Watched something on the history channel the other day about exorcism and some quacknut who goes around expelling demons from people.

        Creepy as hell.

        Thank you so much for the encouragement, everyone. I can’t tell you how much it means to me. Whoda thunk that Atheists were nice people, too? [And I'm sincerely sorry for ever believing that you couldn't possibly be simply because you don't believe in god.]