Hot Water – Bring It

October 6th, 2009

This summer one of my children had a homeschooled friend over to play.  This is a conversation that took place.  I am not making any of it up.


Me – So how is your baseball season going?


Child – Not that great.


Me – Why?  What is wrong?


Child – It’s public.


Me – What do you mean?


Child – It’s a public team… the kids say a lot of cuss words.


Me – Do you mean public like in public school?


Child – Yes.


Me – My kids go to a public school.


Child – I know… but your kids are different.


Me – No, they’re not.  They’re just the same.  Public school kids are just the same as you and me… 


I didn’t feel like I could really say what I wanted to say to this kid or to his parents – especially his mom –  who I am sure is the source of this type of thinking.  This kid is from a religious homeschooling family and they have successfully taught their children that public school students are somehow less than their own kids.  Which homeschool curriculum does that come from?  


Example #2


Last year, I was at the grocery store.  A woman from our community who homeschools her family came up to me and said, “I was reading your blog and I wanted you to know that sometimes when my daughters and I see kids behaving badly at a park or in a gym we just roll our eyes and say, “That is so public school.”  

I don’t know why she said this to me.  I think she might have mistaken me for someone else she reads on the internet.  I just looked at her strangely and then asked her about her kids to change the subject.  


Example #3  

Countless conversations with other stay at home moms (when I was still a young mom with little kids) who had decided to homeschool their kids… 

The first thing these new homeschooling moms always said when discussing their decision to homeschool was, ‘I don’t want my kids to be influenced by the bad behavior of the other children.”

These young moms were talking about kindergartners.  Those bad, bad kindergartners.  Those evil, evil kindergartners. And also those evil kindergarten teachers!  Oh, how those kindergarten teachers are so clearly the spawn of Satan with their seasonal sweaters and their seasonal earrings and their cheerful sunny smiles and their cheerful sunny classrooms.  I have never felt the flames of hell burning hotter under my feet than when I stepped inside of a kindergarten classroom.  

I volunteered in each one of my sons’ kindergarten classrooms.  I helped the kids on an individual basis to learn the animated alphabet and eventually to read simple words.  I never met a kindergartner that wasn’t the sweetest, most cuddly, most adorable child on the face of the earth.  All of them.  Every single one.  They all did whatever I asked of them.  They loved the one-on-one time.  I put stars on the words they had learned and let them pick the color.  I got to work with my own boys too.  The only demons I saw were the ones possessing the brand new homeschool moms.  

Quite honestly, I can perfectly understand being worried about negative influences from other kids in middle school and high school – but strangely this is when homeschoolers often choose to stick their kids back in the public schools.  That has always seemed backwards to me if bad influences are truly what motivates you to homeschool.


Beating a Dead Horse…

When was the last time you read something online that said good things about public schools?  When was the last time you saw a family committed to their local schools because they believed in them and they wanted to be a part of something bigger than themselves?  When was the last time you thought about the great public school teachers that helped make you who you are today?  


Christianity and Homeschooling…

This is really where I come unglued.  This is the source of all my ire towards homeschooling.  It is this bizarre belief that homeschooling is what a good Christian mom does.   I don’t know how this belief got started and how it has spread so voraciously all over the Midwest – but it has.  These days, if you love Jesus – you homeschool. 

This has never made any sense to me.  How does it fit in with the whole ‘love your neighbor as yourself thing?’  How can you love your neighbor if you don’t even allow your kids to talk to your neighbor because your neighbors kids are not homeschooled?  How can you love your neighbor if you don’t even know your neighbor because you sequester yourself into a safe little homeschooling group? 

I was raised in a very conservative church.  It had broken off of a more ‘mainline’ church over some silly dispute about communion years before.  This is what Christians do these days.  If they disagree about anything in their church, they just pack up and go find another church.  Slowly, this attitude has spread from church shopping to school shopping.  If Christians are dissatisfied with their local school, for whatever reason from the lunch menu to the student/teacher ratio – they just yank their kids out and homeschool them.  Or, they buy into this paranoia that public schools are corrupt from the start.  Before they even step in the door… before they even talk to a teacher.  

Sticking with something… committing yourself to something… tolerating anything that is hard… seeing the problems in yourself as well as the problems in your church or school… and working to make things better… these are things that Christians don’t do anymore.  They just pack up and leave.  And they take their kids with them perpetuating this idea that relationships with people are secondary to personal beliefs and struggling through difficult times is something to flee.  

What would happen if Christian homeschooling moms chose to channel all their homeschooling energy towards improving their local schools instead of just teaching their own kids?  What if instead of focusing on their own family, they got right down in the trenches of pubic education with their neighbors to make life better for all the kids in their community? Would that not be a fine example of loving your neighbor as yourself?  Would that not be a fine thing to teach your kids?


Here ends my sermon series on homeschooling.  

Next up – Sprinking vs immersion and how one of these methods of baptism leaves big chunks of your immortal soul in eternal peril.


  • DeAun:

    Well said! I don’t homeschool but have been made to feel inferior because I send my kids to public school and God forbid I work outside the home also!! I have respect for the moms that choose to homeschool, but I feel they should also respect my decision not to.

  • Just Kris:

    Every day I remind my children to “Be Jesus” as I put them on that bus to the public school they attend. As a Christian I am called to spread that love over and beyond the comfort of my home. I use my vacation time to help in the public schools where my kiddos attend. That is my way of giving back and making the school a positive environment for all children, not matter what their religious upbringing is.
    Am I a saint – oh definitely NOT – but I do love and fully support the PUBLIC school system that is helping my children grow and spread the love of Christ in their hearts.

  • I don’t have a dog in this “fight” since both of my daughters are in their 30s but I felt compelled to chime in and say ‘BRAVA”!!!

    They both went to public school, including college and the youngest is now in law school. I couldn’t ask for better kids. I realize that my raising them to be thoughtful, caring individuals contributed to their wonderfulness but public school didn’t impact them negatively.

    As a sidebar, I love your blog, I read it every day and you are a hoot!

  • marisa rickerson:

    Amen on that repremant about homeschooling!!!!!! Thank God for common sense! I couldn’t have said it any better =)

  • Melinda Gerow:

    One thing I learned when I was selecting a school for my son was that people become very fiercely protective of their school choice. I talked to parents who sent their kids to public school, private school, charter school and homeschool and all of them ranted on about how much better their choice was from the others. When I went to school(60′s and 70′s) a lot went on that my parents never knew about. Teachers drank, had affairs and verbally abused kids. This all happened in what was deemed a “good” public school. The world has changed a lot since then and now I feel that I have a good grasp on what my child’s school is like. We love our public school but I button my lip when the whole school choice debate comes up. It’s safer to talk religion or politics than school choice!

  • Martha in Kansas:

    Yeah. Agreed. A young friend recently decided to home school when the boys were diagnosed with emotional problems and the school offered help. (Authoritarian parents. One child is shy, fearful and doesn’t obey rules. In second grade he still can’t read. The other child lives in his head and doesn’t seem to hear rules. These coping strategies for their home life just don’t translate to school.) She decided it would be “better” to home school. She’ll teach art and her friend will teach the hard stuff.

    There are times when I wonder if homeschooling should be illegal. How will these children ever learn to survive life outside the “nurturing” (?) family.

  • Tracey:

    I have to stand up for the other side of the fence on this one. I think one of the biggest reasons Christian parents don’t get into the trenches to defend public schools is because school is becoming more and more a government entity. I was horrified recently to find out that the public school I went to as a kid (in an Amish/Mennonite community) is now being attacked for saying they support Christian values. One person that received the latest newsletter declaring that was so horribly offended that they contacted some Anti-Religious group who is now pursuing the school to sever all ties with Christianity. How is that fair? That one person being offended speaks for the entire school system? I keep hearing more and more stories about children being taught about sex in kindergarten, how to put on condoms at 5 years old, to be pro-homosexual, how to worship our president or country as if it’s God… It’s just pathetic. What happened to teaching kids math and english vs. political views and sex ed? I agree wholeheartedly with you that it’s wrong for people to say they homeschool to keep their kids away from “public” kids, but until the public school system can get back to it’s fundamental purpose of teaching, I can’t say I blame so many people for homeschooling.

  • Amen to your comments on fleeing one church for another (usually because they don’t like the old lady they sit next to or the preacher is not entertaining). You either believe something or you don’t. If it’s that fundamentally important to you, if it is your entire belief structure that underlies your life, can you really just change it from one Sunday to the next? Really? Can you?

    Explain that to me and maybe I’ll return to church.

    (From a reader who was public-schooled and proud of it.)

  • Sandra:

    More support for you, R. What that child said is far more worrisome than anything you ever said.
    Just Kris: please allow this atheist to offer her thanks for your lovely and loving attitude.
    Tracey: The public school system IS a government entity, supported by public funds, isn’t it?

  • Vickie:

    I hear horror stories about public school and about homeschooling. Mostly that’s all they are- stories. Home schooling isn’t for everyone and neither is public school. In most cases, the parents are good, caring people who do the best they can for their children. A few nut cases from either side of this fence don’t make up the majority.
    And Emily, if you believe that your church has sound principles, go back. Don’t let the imperfect people keep you away.

  • Tracey:

    But aren’t there supposed to be laws protecting children against teacher’s personal opinions/agendas in the classroom? Why are children being taught political and social opinions, but we have some of the lowest standardized test scores in the world?

  • Carol:

    Tracey, the public schools are a US government entity–and in the US we have this thing called the separation of church and state. Your public schools should NOT be saying they support Christian values.

  • Jen:

    Well said! I send my 1st grade daughter to a public school and I volunteer there. It’s an opportunity for our family to be a blessing to others. Christians are supposed to share the love of Jesus with others and it’s pretty hard to do that if you are only involved in home life and church activities. My daughter has started (all on her own, btw) what she calls her “Bible Club” at recess where she tells other children Bible stories. Everyone is welcome, but she doesn’t force anyone to listen to her. She’s not even 6! I’ve found nothing objectional in her curriculum yet. Public schools are not teaching kindergarteners about sex or to worship our president! I realized that as she gets older, she will be taught things that our family doesn’t agree with, even find very wrong. It’s MY job to teach her what’s right, pray for her, and trust that God will work in her life. I know many public highschool students who love Jesus with their whole hearts and share that with other students on their campus. That’s what I want for my daughter, to be a bright light shining light and hope into sad, lost world, and not a child who has been raised in a Chirstian bubble and is afraid to leave it.

  • Another Mom:

    Sandra: Perhaps the public school should go back to being funded strictly by the community it is in; no state or federal money involved. Oh yes it can be done! Perhaps then for those unfortunate few schools who lack community and parental involvement will suddenly find themselves with boat loads of concerned parents and citizens.

    I’m from central Illinois, the biggest complaint I hear is lack of involvement. However when I tried to involve myself, a SAHM, I was shoved back out the door and told to wait until school was over – for 5 long years.

    As for what Rechelle has said. I guess we’re backwards!! We’re poor, special ed, and have chose this route not because of some superior right wing Christian ideas. Oh and my kids play with the all of the public school kids. Except for the teen bullies downtown but, who would play with them anyways – public or home schooled bullies, a bully, is a bully, is a bully. And I’m active in volunteering in my community – so I guess I’m really backwards…hah, hah, hah…..

    Rechelle on baptism do you have to do it more than once? Does it wear off after so long, like an expiration date? ;-)

  • Cindy in GA:

    “If Christians are dissatisfied with their local school, for whatever reason from the lunch menu to the student/teacher ratio – they just yank their kids out and homeschool them.” Really? I’ve been homeschooling my kids for 12 years, and I’ve yet to meet a homeschooler who would persevere (or even choose) this difficult job for such reasons.

    “Or, they buy into this paranoia that public schools are corrupt from the start. Before they even step in the door… before they even talk to a teacher.” Are you sure? My mother was a teacher, as was my aunt. I know several other public school professionals as well.

    ” They just pack up and leave. And they take their kids with them perpetuating this idea that relationships with people are secondary to personal beliefs… ” What did I leave? My kids have never been to a school. I never had a problem with anyone in the public school. I do believe that my relationship with my own children is more important than my (or their) relationships outside of our family, though those are certainly very important as well.

    “How can you love your neighbor if you don’t even know your neighbor because you sequester yourself into a safe little homeschooling group?” How is it that I sequester myself? Do you know me? We are involved in so many outside activities that my head spins. What homeschooling group? I barely know any families who homeschool their high schoolers. My kids, my husband, and I have all kinds of friends, very few of whom also homeschool their kids.

    It’s too bad that you’ve had some experiences with people who are prideful of their decisions about schooling their children. It’s much worse that you feel that those few experiences make it O.K. to characterize a huge group of others in a negative way. You don’t like homeschoolers to make generalizations about public school kids, parents, or teachers, yet you do the same thing about people who choose homeschooling. Shall I give examples of public school families who are terrible examples of parenting and then claim that this is who public school parents are? Certainly I wouldn’t do that.

    In fact, I go out of my way to say as little as possible about our educational choices for our kids, even hesitating to fully answer those who ask about our reasons. I have learned that people can take any positive thing I could say about our experiences or ideas and take it as a criticism of their choices. I generally stick to, “It’s just a great fit for our family.” Is that inoffensive enough?

    I’ve been enjoying your blog for a while, but I’m afraid that this isn’t the kind of thing I enjoy being a part of anymore. I know it matters not to you to lose one reader, especially a homeschooling reader. I’m just sad to learn that you would characterize me in this way – I thought you a kinder, smarter person than that. People are individuals. We do what we think is best for our families, because we care so deeply about them. I hope that eventually you will open your mind a bit; there is more than one right way to do things.

  • Kim:


  • CWright:

    I think home schooling or not home schooling depends on the circumstances. We live in a small town and the public schools are pretty darn good, but if I lived in a big city and my children had to go to a inner city school w/ gang violence or other troubles where I felt my children were in danger, then I would have to reconsider a public school.

    A public school does not make or break a child. How a child acts I think depends on the upbringing. Values are/should be taught at home. To hear an adult classify an unbehaving child as “public school” is ridiculous.

    One thing I think home schooling may do is shelter a child a little too much. Don’t get my wrong, I want to shelter my children under my wing, but I think they also need to be aware of the real world and not look at it through rose colored glasses. I went to a public school through sixth grade and then from seventh grade though college I attended private Baptist schools. I wouldn’t have traded that for anything, but I also feel that I missed out on some things.

    Choosing one over the other has to be a personal choice….judging one for chosing one over the other surely isn’t the Christian way.

  • Rechelle, it is very hard to respond to your points because of the hyperbole regarding homeschoolers.

    Don’t you know that people have been trying to improve the public school system for DECADES? Don’t you know that thousands of now homeschoolers started their journeys by trying to make changes only to discover how futile that effort can be? If the system is so easy to change why hasn’t it been? Why are there so many dissatisfied parents if it is all so fine and wonderful?

    My dad took me out of public school after fifth grade in about 1970. He’d been in the public schools for years by then, greatly disturbed on many levels, had made a run for the school board, and done other things to have an impact for change. He finally just started his own school for his kids (homeschooling was never heard of then!) My dh’s dad was a public school superintendent and HE was discouraged by the impossibility of making true change and the direction the school system was going. He’d been in it for over twenty years! He lobbied in the legislature for educational improvement. There was no “taking the easy way” for either of these guys.

    Finally, in conclusion….
    Homeschooling is the hardest thing I do. It’s easier to bake a hundred servings of apple pie then it is to get my kid to write a story for language class. There is no way I would be motivated to keep going every day if it was all about my feeling superior to my public schooling neighbor or the “empowerment” I feel making him get that story done. Give me a break.

    I do it because I love my kids and I want them to succeed, just like you do with your own. Thank God we have the freedom to choose how we are going to do this. I truly do respect your right to make your choice. Please respect mine.

  • Nichole:

    I am a homeschooling mom. Yes homeschoolers love their choice. I agree it isn’t right to look down on those who choose to put their kids in public school, but in your post, you come at homeschooling with as much prejudice as you claim the homeschoolers have against public school. Maybe that kid you were talking to in your first example just meant your kids didn’t use foul language like the kids on his baseball team. Maybe it was as simple as that. Maybe he notices that because he hasn’t become calloused to it by hearing it all the time at school.

    Most parents who homeschool believe that teaching our kids at home is the best way to raise them up in the way they should go. It’s hard to do that when they are gone the majority of the day at public school and you have to spend time undoing much of what they are learning there, not just from other kids, but also from the curriculum.

    You compared church hoppers to parents who take their kids out of public school? So church is like public school? Church hopping isn’t right, but protecting your kids is.

    Sticking with and committing to homeschooling IS hard! It’s a lot of work having your kids with you 24/7 and making sure they are learning and growing! And relationships are secondary to beliefs! You don’t sacrifice beliefs for relationships or they aren’t really beliefs.

    You said maybe homeschool moms should channel all their energy into making public schools better rather than focusing on their own families, but that is just backwards thinking to me. My family IS the priority. I sacrifice my time, energy, resources and myself to make sure they are learning what they need to learn, experiencing, growing and I don’t have to worry about all the stuff I don’t want them to learn. They still see it. We aren’t sequestered from the world. I think you would find that most homeschoolers get their kids out and involved in the community volunteering, doing sevice oriented type work so that they are out building relationships outside of the family with people of all ages, and they do experience things that aren’t “nurturing” necessarily. Then they learn to love their neighbors as themselves and it doesn’t have to be done in a public school setting.

    I fully support your choice to send your kids to public school. I think it is fantastic when parents are involved in their kids’ education in any form. Studies show that kids whose parents are involved always do better. I would just appreciate your support for those who choose to homeschool, despite what may look like prejudice against public schoolers. They are human. How about loving them like your neighbor too.

  • I’m sorry that you’ve had some bad experiences with home schoolers, but you need to know that it is not representative of all homeschoolers. Some homeschoolers even have problems with other homeschoolers – they aren’t religious enough for them, don’t use the right curriculum, don’t attend the right church. etc.

    But, then, self righteousness is not limited to only homeschoolers…. It can be found in many different people no matter what their educational choices are.

    • It does not surprise me at all Lori L. that homeschoolers can’t get along with each other either.

  • I LOVE our public school. My 1st grader is in a wheelchair, can’t talk, walk, sit up, eat by himself or go potty. He has a one-on-one aide who is with him all day (actually only 3 hours because that’s what I want). He gets PT, OT, speech, alternative PE and is taken out of the classroom and rocked with a blankie when he stresses out. He will be able to attend school until he’s 20 and he probably will. FREAKIN’ YAY for public schools.

  • Rechelle, I am so glad you posted this! My thoughts are so tangled on this subject, but here are some facts about me: I’m a Christian and I homeschool. Sort of. I’m definitely a Christian, but my kids attend a virtual charter school that is funded through the state. I have lots of friends on both sides of this fence and I firmly believe that it has to be an individual choice for each family. I would love to send my kids to school every day. The schools in my district are some the lowest ranked in this area. I truly believe they can get a better education at home through the charter school. But it’s about their education, not socialization or influence. My kids are involved in activities outside of school and have lots of opportunities to be influenced by “bad” kids. I’ve discovered that most of these “bad” kids just need some attention. Someone to stand up for them and be in their corner. If I remove my family from situations where these kids are, I’m failing them. Both my kids and other kids. This is how we can learn compassion.
    Sorry, I’m rambling and could probably go on and on. The bottom line is I don’t believe in completely sheltering my kids from all influence I don’t agree with. There would be no compassion learned, no insight gained, and no discussion to be had. How sad.

  • jean:

    Oh my lord, you are going to hell in a handbasket! This is hysterical stuff. I’ll save you a seat just remember to bring the chocolate!

  • I have nothing further to add about homeschooling but as for baptism, my soul’s already got a room booked in hell so either way is fine with me. :-)

  • Ya! All that and I would kill my kids if they were home all day fighting.

  • Hi, I have been reading your blog often on, but couldn’t help but reply today.

    Thank You. I am a Christian, but also a public school teacher. I work with at-risk and alternative high school students. I have felt for years that part of the problem with the public schools is that the Christians have pulled away from the school. I would love to see churches adopt a public school or schools in your area. Commit to pray for the teachers, send an encouraging note once in a while, maybe organize a group to bring in a snack or lunch or supper for conference nights. Make your self a presence at school events. Can you collect school supplies for the students who don’t have any? I go through a ton of paper and pencils because many of my students parents will not make sure thet they have the supplies needed to start school. Are there business people in your church that can become mentors for troubled youth (or youth without a dad or mom) Stand up for subtle small changes in your school. Demand that the schools hire administrators that will actually do the right thing. I have worked for both good and bad principals. Seen to many that would let a kid off the hook if the parents or community made a fuss. (we had a group of kids burn down the concession stand. The kids were going to be punished by the school, but their parents and others in the community demanded that nothing happen to them. This taught many of our students that you can do what you want with no problems.) Let’s see what happens when the churches unite to support the public schools and teachers. I hope that this gets people thinking about what your church can do to turn things around.

    • Thank you for what you do Colleen. I agree with you one hundred percent – which is an A+ which is what you get for what you do.

  • kat:

    Well said, Rechelle! While I have no issues with homeschooling per se (even considered doing it myself) I hate, hate, HATE the idea of anyone teaching their children that they are better than the other kids. My boys go to the local public school, and if there they meet with kids who don’t behave themselves I treat it as an opportunity for my kids to learn something. How the HECK do you teach your kids to deal with life if you shelter them from everything that is not perfect?

  • My daughter has been out of school for a long time but my belief is that there is such a difference between those who say they are Christian and those who act like Christians. I has a special needs child who but for the public school system would have suffered as I was a single mom who had to bring home the bacon as well as parent. (and if you can do both well, more power to you!) I feel strongly that parents should teach their children the difference between right and wrong and how to act like a Christian. Segregating them from reality is not the answer. We all have to learn to live in the real world, no matter who we are. I will stand up for the right thing and would not tolerate abuse but how is the overprotected child going to deal with reality if they never live in it. You can guide your children by talking to them and explaining things without blanketing them. My daughter had to learn early in life that people will say mean things to you if you are “different” but I also taught her that they are the one that have a problem, that of prejudice and intolerance. Learning to deal with life is an essential skill today.

  • Mary:

    I am the same Mary who left the snarky Amen comment on your 1st HS post. Sorry, I was in a bad mood that day.

    I am curious about your opinion on private religious schools. The schools I attended didn’t have placement tests, etc. We did have teachers that earned 1/2 of the salary (yes 1/2 ) that the local public school teachers did. We had classrooms w/ 30 kids, and they had no aides, prep periods etc. Our state testing scores were always at or better than the local school districts. Each student in my school freed up an additional $7,000 for the public school students. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest.

    • I don’t have an opinion on private religious schools – but I would always choose an actual school over homeschooling. There are just more checks and balances for the sake of the kid.

  • Little Appoe:

    I have some grandkids being home-schooled and some in public school. When the home schoolers started I worried about lack of socialization but that hasn’t happened as they are so busy with other youth group activity. They move from home school to on-line schooling at junior high. Time management is a factor, both as a cause for home schooling and as a problem of home schooling but then that’s true of all life.
    While they are Christians, one of the things that pushed them to home school was coach-teachers who worship sports in a dictatorial fashion that carried over into the classroom. Another was worldly play acting (grade 2) during unsupervised or loosely supervised recess. There’s more to a schoolday than a-b-c’s or religion.
    Meanwhile one gs in public school struggles because his sweet but learning challanged personality doesn’t fit the system’s mold. I’m worried sick he will grow to dislike himself because the teachers tell him he doesn’t cut it.
    It’s not all about being or not being a Christian. And one answer doesn’t fit everybody.

  • Tracey:

    Colleen: I agree with you wholeheartedly and think that it would be wonderful for the church to get involved with public schools, but alas… it can’t. That whole seperation of church and state thing…

  • I was wondering where all of this anti-homeschooling stuff came from… because I could have sworn I never heard it (so loudly) here before. But i totally understand! And now have read the serious post! haha

    I don’t have kids. But I was raised Christian and in a public school. However I live in CA and the alternative here is often the expensive Christian schools. My parents did not see the need for this. They put us in public school and decided to be involved with our schooling. Their thought was if something was going wrong they would know about it and then they could do something else. This never happened. My mom was on the earthquake preparedness committee & helped in classrooms while my dad eventually ran for school board. They got to know each of our teachers and supported & thanked them… even if they were not Christian. My faith was stronger in the public schools because I found a support system there. I was incredibly plugged into my church youth group and that carried over into school. I also headed up the Christian club at the high school – but it was small. Because many Christians were at private schools or home.

    I still do not know what I will do with my own children. But I am drawn to homeschooling more for the freedom & closeness that it would give me and my children. Not to exert religious control over them. If they only hear mom & dad talk about Jesus… won’t they begin to doubt that at some point? I have more to say, but am going to stop now!

  • Oh and a church can pray for a school. And we had pastors come & teach at our Christian club. It does get political… but if it is student led then usually it is okay. And what’s to stop a church from doing non-churchy things to support schools? Donating supplies (my church donates backpacks full of supplies to low income kids), time (volunteering), food (to cook a nice meal for teachers once a month?), supervision (parents need to go on field trips). At our church we met on thursdays before school for prayer & waffles. Other friends came too, because of the waffles! What a way to show Christ’s love?

  • Amen, sistah! Love every word.

  • I was wondering if you’ve ever read anything about or by John Taylor Gatto? He has some interesting ideas about government funded education. Maybe that could be your next book review ;~)

    Who has decided she doesn’t have the energy to change the world.
    Maybe more coffee would help.

  • MJ:

    I think that you are a brave woman to state your opinions so clearly.

    I am proud to say that my kids are students in public schools in NY City. It is the best possible choice for us. As a result of their experiences with people from every imaginable cultural, religious, ethnic, racial, and economic background and every walk of life, they are incredibly cool. I am so proud that they are always open to the possibilities in each person’s soul and never assume that any person is better (or worse) than another.

    We are observant Catholics (Christians, in a word) and cherish the opprtunities for our children to live the Gospels each day in their schools. I think that the essence of being a Christian is to recognize that Our Lord loves each of us and all of us beyond what we can imagine. We all are lovely in His sight.

    I don’t know any homeschooling families, but I admire very much some of the women whose blogs I read. I admire their creativity and patience and desire to share a love of learning with their children. I have dreamed of homeschooling at times, because I love being with my kids, but we just can’t pull it off.

    So many of the negative comments you quoted echo the things I’ve heard about “working moms.” (I call myself an ‘employed mom,’ because all mothers work.) The hurtful assumptions and comments about our lives are sometimes unbelievable.

  • I think there is a time and place for homeschooling, but I also believe that not every parent/adult is cut out to be a teacher. We have a family up the road that homeschools, and their kids have absolutely no social skills whatsoever. They don’t know how to talk to people, and heaven forbid, a parent isn’t around to help them function (ie order in a restaurant, buy something at a store, etc…) Homeschooling is not a service to these children, it is hurting them in the long run. What are they going to do when the parents aren’t around?

    I guess I’ve always wondered what sort of training does a parent have to go through to become a “teacher”?

  • I have heard this many times.

    Interestingly, the church I attend has about 7 public school teachers, and I am the only person that home schools.

    I am looked down on because I do home school. I am looked at as a bad person because I’m not going with the norm.

    I’m sorry that you are getting this attitude.

    Home schooling isn’t for everyone, and you’d be very surprised at how many people home school for non-religious reasons.

  • Tracey:

    Megan, I love your ‘thinking outside the box approach’ to church and school. Thank you for the food for thought! ;D

  • km:

    I love to read homeschooling tips and admire the work the women (usually it’s women that I read of) put into the education of their kids. I’m in the NorthEast and know of only one homeschooling family here. Mom is a Phd and one of their two teenagers is homeschooled. The second daughter preferred public school and they are happy with both choices.
    Mom wars whether paycheck or unpaid moms, breastfed vs bottle, homeschool vs public are of not constructive. Mom choice discussions are. I am sorry that you have found a bit of passive-aggressive stealth going on re; homeschoolers.
    Our two kids are PS kids who just recently started at a charter school. I’m thrilled with it. Because it takes an active participation to join, as opposed to a default position of local ps, the parents are extremely active and dedicated. I see it as the best of both worlds. I would love to have the creativity and work ethic of homeschool parents added to that mix. Our public schools would be awesome.
    Also, I live in a liberal state and have to say worship of the president, condoms for 5 year olds…??? that’s all scaremongering people. I have yet to see it and I’m pretty seasoned.
    Rechelle, keep your honest voice going. Some will agree, some will disagree. Own your opinions!! You are finding your voice

  • My daughter started out in public school and I never thought about doing anything other than that. We lived in a community with a good school and I was very involved. Her elementary school was wonderful because any physically handicapped student in our area went to that school because there were no stairs. My daughter was friends with children who were in wheelchairs and one who’d had many many surgeries and had tubes and such following an organ transplant but I still have pictures of them doing the YMCA at the school dance. She learned diversity and tolerance and learned to appreciate her physical abilities and learned not to judge people just because they may be physically different.

    My complaint was that I didn’t get enough information from the school – communication from the teachers for the first 3 years of her education were not what I would have liked but I went with the flow. My daughter was an honor roll student so all was well – or so I thought. When she was promoted from 2nd to 3rd grade, we moved to a large city and she would be transferring schools. I was very concerned about her reading ability and had to make the school district test her (because she had passed the 2nd grade with honors they didn’t want to) but I knew something was wrong and pushed to find out more. Those tests revealed my daughter had a reading disability and was only reading at a 1st grade level but was scheduled to begin 3rd grade in 2 months. I wasn’t going to let that happen. She was a good student who did good work so she was passed despite the teacher being aware, and NEVER working with me, that there was an obvious reading problem. I was able to do something about it because I didn’t rely on the school for her entire education. We were doing things at home and I KNEW there was something amiss. Since she was changing schools anyway, we elected to have her repeat the 2nd grade. In the new school, she was “flagged” as learning disabled and pulled out of “regular” class for English and Reading. She learned nothing in these special ed classes. After about a month I called a meeting with the faculty and said the special classes weren’t doing anything for her. The special ed teacher showed us some exercises to do AT HOME to help her learn how to deal with her disability and she stayed in regular classes. I didn’t allow them to pad her grades or give her special easy work, my child didn’t need that, she just needed some extra time for in-class assignments and especially for tests. I made the teachers design a plan that worked for her, rather than what the normal special ed curriculum would have done. By the 4th grade she was learning to love to read and was once again an honor roll student. She hadn’t “cured” her disability but rather found ways to overcome it – by working with us AT HOME and not relying completely on school to figure it out.

    She stayed in public school until October 31 of her 7th grade year. By that time she was going to a Junior High with a large number of inner city kids whose parents had no involvement in the school or their children’s education. The really involved parents who lived in that community had started pulling their children out and now were homeschooling them. My daughter was almost molested by two male students. A teacher saw them pull her into a closet and opened the door before anything more could occur. I picked my daughter up and told her she was never returning to that school again. She had been homecoming queen, on the cheerleading team and several of the teacher’s favorite student but I wasn’t going to risk her safety. The following week she started at a private Christian school from which she graduated with an amazing education.

    My point was, part of the reason the large city schools are getting worse are:

    * Parents think the school system should provide ALL education – the school shouldn’t be teaching sex ed, religion and English. These are things that should be taught at home so the parents can impart their beliefs. The kids shouldn’t be in public school if they don’t speak English – there’s no way they can succeed.

    * Parents aren’t involved with the schools like they should be – they don’t attend parent teacher conferences, school plays, field days, etc. and shame on them for complaining about it later. I had to volunteer to drive for my nephew’s field day in a week because my sister was the only parent who said she could drive out of a classroom of 15 kids. Where are the other 14 parents???

    * Parents who aren’t happy with what is happening just pull their child out of school which doesn’t help any of the other children (here, here, Rechelle!)

    * Mentally handicapped students are being put in mainstream classes which hurts the teachers and most of the other students because all the teacher’s time is spent catering to the needy students and the rest get left behind. Mental special needs children are the ones who should be home-schooled. The mainstream classroom is not the most appropriate learning setting for most of these students. The parents are more concerned with their children not being treated any differently but they aren’t getting anything from mainstream classroom teachings and they’re hurting the other students by being there because the teacher can’t teach the rest of them. This statement may be controversial but in my area there are students who can’t speak, who can’t go to the bathroom and who have a 50 IQ in regular 3rd grade classes and they can’t possibly be learning anything. The parents are more concerned with them being “included” than the student actually learning in a setting that’s best for them and where they could actually learn something.

    * Parents should take control of their children’s education – whether that means teaching them at home to address special needs, supplementing what the school is doing like we did with my daughter, and especially getting involved with the school to fix the problems.

    * What makes homeschooling parents think they can teach trigonometry, calculus and other such classes? What makes them think THEY know the ways to impart knowledge on someone? Giving birth does now magically make you a teacher. I was a terrible teacher for my daughter. We were working on things at home like I would have learned them – by discussion. It was the special ed teacher who realized my daughter was a “visual learner” – discussing it didn’t teach her anything – she had to see it to learn it. There is a reason teachers are required to go to college for 4 years. It is presumptuous and egotistical to think that just anyone can be a teacher. When my daughter was in high school she would come home and tell us about the “poor home school kids” (her words, not mine) who would come to her school in 11th or 12th grade and were so socially awkward and so far behind academically that most were never going to go to college and would be good to graduate high school.

    * Parents who home school because they “want to spend more time with their children” should be ashamed of themselves and get a life. Making friends and doing things on their own is the natural cycle of life and parents are hurting their children by keeping them in their bubble because they can’t handle their children growing up and apart from them. Parents are NOT supposed to raise good children – they are supposed to raise good ADULTS and you can’t be an adult if you are still attached to mommy’s apron strings.

    * Heidi – it scares me that you’re a home schooler and this is why I think that many people who home school don’t have the ability to be doing it. There are so many grammatical errors in your post that you can’t possibly be teaching your children proper English. I know I don’t have that ability which is why I didn’t home school but parents have to recognize their limitations.

    Sorry this was so long but I really see both sides. There ARE situations where home schooling is the best option and special needs students are the perfect example of that. But, for most mainsteam students, public school would be good for them and we could make the public schools GREAT if all the home school parents put as much effort into the school system instead of just their child. Remember, “it takes a village to raise a child”.

  • Cyndi B:

    Wow, I’ve haven’t read in a week, and boy howdy, what the heck happened!

    My girls have been educated all three ways…public, private and homeschooled. Good and bad in all…just like there’s good and bad in people.

    It saddens me to see all this arguing.

  • Tracey:

    I just want to say that everything I posted was taken directly from news sources around the country. I’m not arguing whether they’re scare tactics/fear mongering or not… just factual events that have occurred and are continuing to. I made a post referencing all the news articles I could find (today) but it says it’s “awaiting moderation” or something. Just wanted it known that I’m not trying to “smear” the public school system… I’m just shocked that things are occurring that apparently a majority of people have not even heard about. I’ve rather enjoyed both sides of this debate and agree with everyone that it’s a choice each individual family must make.

  • Can’t wait for the S vs I discussion. Perhaps next you’d like to take on the whole healthcare debate. Again, Wow.

  • Wouldn’t it be nice (unrealistic, but nice) if we could all just accept that we all have different points of view and that none of them are necessarily wrong? We’re all just parents trying to do what works best for us, and that’s really the only important thig.

    My kids are all Public School kids (in Canada), are all doing well, and are polite and well-behaved. I love the PS system, and see my kids thriving in it on all different levels.

  • Heidi:

    Why are christian values so imoral and offensive to liberals? Why can liberals be offended and have the righ to do/say how they feel – but conservatives are right wing nut jobs.

  • Heidi:

    So glad your grammer is perfect Jen, because your reasoning isnt…

  • Colleen W:

    I think there are many good ways to educate your children. The most important thing is for parents to carefully choose the best for their child.

    My children went to public school and that worked for our family. Our public schools were well supported by parents and the community in general. We actually bought our home in a school district that was known for good schools, and that was even before we had children. We planned on public school for the beginning.

    As a parent I was involved in all aspects of my children’s education. I helped at the school, and with after school activities, so I had a pretty good idea about what was going on.

    When my 4 kids got older and went to high school there were things going on with some of the students, like drinking etc. that concerned us as parents. I always told my kids that I trusted them enough to make good decisions about the challenges they would face at school. We kept the parent-kid communication lines open, and everything worked out just fine. I am pleased to say that all of my children turned out to be successful, well adjusted adults. Many fantastic teachers along the way have influenced their lives for good, and many of their school friends also have been great blessings. I never once felt in all those years that I could have done as good a job educating my children at home. True, if I had come up against something that made me feel that the very best thing for my child would have been schooling at home, I like to think I would have made that choice. But honestly, I wanted a broader life for them.

    I don’t think public school is the only way, but it is a good way. A very good way.

  • Marjie:

    I love your blog. I too am a Doctors wife. I have four daughters. I had to, to balance out YOUR boys. My girls attended public grade school and then because it was in our neighborhood a private catholic girls school at the top of our hill. BOTH were excellent. All of my kids maintained their friendships with all their friends! We took our last to College a few weeks ago. The most important thing that any parent can do for successful parenting is to PAY ATTENTION! No place or school or kid is perfect…Keep ASKING questions! The last thing my KIDS needed was to spend ALL day every day with ME. I liked that they learned other views and problem solving and could drive SOMEONE else crazy for a while. Well worth the investment!

  • Tonya:

    I want to echo the sentiments of those who are sad that this has to be a fight. Why can’t we accept that the large majority of parents want nothing but the best for their children and make choices based on what they believe to be the best for them? That does not mean the choice I make will be the right choice for anyone else. It also does not mean that the choice you make is right for me.

    I found it ironic that instead of simply defending public schools, and there are a lot of really good things about public schools, it turned into a “let’s slam those who homeschool, cause they slam us”. Am I the only person who is surrounded by people who get along without regard to how their children are being educated? In my social circle there are homeschoolers and there are those who have always and will always send their kids to public school, and their are a few who have chosen the private school route. One of my friends sends two of her kids to public school and homeschools the other two…..go figure.

    I have seen socially awkward children who have been homeschooled and I have seen public schooled children who are socially awkward. There are homeschooled kids who will never make it to college or won’t graduate, just as there are public schooled children who will drop out and/or never make it to college. Homeschooled children don’t want to be referred to as “poor homeschooled kids” anymore than someone with a public schooled child wants to hear things like “that’s so public”.

    There’s a whole lot of judgement going on here and it seems “holier than thou” occurs on both sides of the fence.

    • I just received a statistic by email from an alert reader that said that only ONE out of NINE homeschooling families actually are giving their kids an adequate education. Imagine if the public schools performed that poorly? Seriously – homeschooling is failing kids abysmally.

  • Tonya, you are so right! I hope I wasn’t offensive, I just wanted to defend my PS roots. I’ve been going to a small church and 4 out of 5 families homeschool, the one who doesn’t – the pastor’s wife! And everyone is accepting of what everyone else does. I think the common theme is be involved & do what’s best for your kids! I know I would not have done well at homeschool, because my mom would not have had the patience to deal with us. So being in public school made our family closer! :)

  • My boys are in Public. I augment their schooling with curriculum that doesn’t happen during their school day…such as science, art lit, social studies and geography. My boys have a better education becasue I sort-of homeschool and are able to participate in a public school sysytem that offers a diverse population. Also, I put in over 30 hours a month of volunteer time at the school.
    Our school system has problems and my homeschooling is the only way I can balance out their needs, because their teachers are over-worked, underpaid and aren’t my kid’s personal tutors. I wish the system was able to cover every child’s need. I wish the country placed a higher value on our education system. I wish we could all stop bitching about the problems and fix them (myself included) but I haven’t a clue on how to “fix” a system that is so archaic, bureaucratic ineffectual and inefficient. A system that not only panders to the average but keeps churning out a barley functioning population.

    • Thanks Mama bug for not giving up on your schools. And thanks for your time as a volunteer. You are a noble woman for what you give and what you do for everyone’s kids.

  • DirtyKSmama - Nikki:

    Oh Rechelle, you are awesome. Keep it up. Look at the forum you have created for people to really express themselves and honestly tell their point of view, based on their experiences (just as you have.) I love it!

    -From the small town woman who watches what she says in her own neighborhood.

  • coffeeman:

    I have seen pro’s and cons of homeschooling , my son who is now 26 went to public school. my daughter who is 11, we homeschool. she is currently “testing” at 7th grade level and that is state academic testing.

    What I see is that some homeschool parents go nuts and are offensive about there approach to others. On the other hand some of the things ” implied ” here could be just as offensive.

    So My wife and I feel to each his own in this regard. And NO homeschooling has NOTHING to do with a pesrons “Christianity”

    We Support your right to voice your opinion . And agree with some things you have said. The problem is we CANNOT lump all people into neat piles.

    I have seen “Homeschooled” Kids who were not able to read and make change at the store because they didnt get a good education.

    I’ve never heard of a homeschooled kid shooting up a class room!

    So while I Agree with some of what you say , I disagree with some as well.

    So we can agree to disagree . You Have a Wonderfull Day

  • Hot Water…good for cleaning!
    I’ve done it all. Public school, homeschooled one of my boys, and we did the Christian school thing too(you wanna talk about “holier than thou ‘tudes, go to a Christian School). I homeschooled my third son halfway thru 2nd grade and then in 9th grade. I hated every minute of it. In 2nd grade I was dealing with teachers and aides who thought he was too quiet and wanted to have meetings with school psychologists, teachers, aides, principals…all for one small boy who didn’t “act like the other children”. (“Um..we work hard to get our kids not to act like the other children!”) So I yanked him out and we finished the year at home. I did not enjoy it and neither did he. The next five years were spent at a Christian School. The “Holier Than Thou-You Must Wear a Dress if You Are A Female” Christian School. We had an issue with them which I won’t go into except to say “Hypocrites—alive and well. So we put all but the third one back into public school, again I was afraid he was a bit too quiet and shy to go straight back into school. From 2nd grade to 9th I think would have been a culture shock for this boy! My fourth had never been to public school and he did just fine going into 5th grade(different personality). I ‘tried’ to homeschool #3 for 9th grade and we also took him to Sylvan. If you have money to spare(and we really didn’t)I believe they do help. The next year they were all in Public schools and I’ve never looked back.
    My sister’s two boys graduated from the same Christian School and she had a major attitude about public schools. She actually made a comment about “those kids in highschool, goofing off in class on their cell phones, doing drug deals…”!! As if the whole student body were selling/buying drugs! But now her boys , smoke, have tattoos and earrings! Go figure!
    I have another sister who homeschools her kids. She really likes it. I don’t think I’ve heard her say much about public schools. I don’t really know what she thinks…I’ll have to ask her.
    I have lots of fond memories of going to public school. And some not so fond, but that’s life, no? I’m glad I didn’t miss out. I enjoy having things like my yearbooks to look at too. (and laugh at!)
    So…thanks for an interesting read Rechelle!

    • Thanks Tracy – I appreciate this response very much.

  • Mary:

    My daughter went to a Christian school until near the end of 4th grade and then switched to public. I have felt that she got a wonderful education through the 4th grade and didn’t learn much after that. But my two younger boys went through Public School for 12 years and both had gold tassels at graduation. My older son will be graduating from college next spring. I think there are good teachers in the Home, in Christian Schools and in Public Schools.

  • Wow somebody hit your hot button! I homeschooled my grandkids because one of them had learning disabilities. It was also a very joyful experience for us. Homeschooling should be about the family and the home. It’s about taking a very active roll in what your kid learns, and that is not implying that if your kid is in public school your not active. When your kid is in public school they learn what the government wants them to know. Just teaching evolution as a fact gets me.

    It isn’t supposed to be about snobbery. snobs come in all forms. Hopefully this isn’t everywhere and maybe you just heard a bit around where you live. You wrote a pretty scathing synopsis of all homeschooling families and I am not a snob, never have been, never will be.

    In fact I comment at your blog and I’m not sure you even read mine but that’s ok, because i can come and read what you say even if your not interested in what i have to say. I’m not going to say that your a snob. It’s not about thinking who is better than who. Christians always always need to think and act like JESUS would want them too. Something about loving your neighbor as your self and loving God with all your heart soul and mind. When we have those priorities in place the rest just comes together as it should. Jesus said these were the greatest commandments.

    On behalf of homeschooling families I do apologize for any snobbery aimed at you. Families that love Jesus need to love each other. If you would like to meet a delightful home schooled family go visit my friends at Wisteria & Roses. you can’t find anything there except heaping helping of family life and love.

  • Laura:

    Like this post, I can certainly list just as many real conversations I’ve had with “public schoolers” that showed how biased, ignorant, uneducated or even indoctrinated they are. Look at testing scores, at literacy rates, at discipline issues in the public school systems. Hello, there are people that fall short in these areas in every arena, and asserting that public schools are the only good way to educate and home schools are completely useless is just showing a complete lack of an ability to see that you are thinking exactly like the worst case scenario you are so condescendingly despising of, which is disappointing. I’m not a homeschooler by the way, and I’m perfectly supporting of public schools and those who choose it. I’m just disappointed in your narrow-minded, bitter diatribe which smacks of elitism and prejudice against a group of people as a whole because you don’t like examples you’ve seen of individuals that fall within that group. That wouldn’t go over so well if we were speaking of race, for example, now would it.

    • I send my kids to a PUBLIC SCHOOL! You can accuse me of a lot of things – but NOT ELITISM! For Crying Out Loud!

  • So I’ve been reading through the responses…I should’ve done that first! Lots of good points here. One thought struck me and that is…this is America and we all should be glad we have a choice on whether to homeschool or not. It is a choice and although it isn’t for me, it may be perfect for someone else. I get where you’re coming from about the attitudes some homeschoolers have though.
    I’ve always told my boys, when it comes to the ‘bad’ kids, they may not like them, but they should be nice to them. They don’t have to be their best friend, just treat them as they would like to be treated.
    So many sides to this issue!

  • Kellye:

    Yeah – you go girl. If they think that ihomeschool s the best choice for them – okay. If we think public schools are the best for us – that’s okay too. One time when I was feeling naughty and someone said to me in a very uppity manner, “we homeschool,” I said, “we professionally educate our children.” Not nice but neither was she.

  • The way I see it you are no better than the homeschoolers because you are blasting them for not sending their kids to public schools. I feel everyone should have the right to do what they feel is right for their children. Nobody should judge anybody that is God’s right only. Don’t let a handful of sour homeschoolers turn you off becasue believe me all homeschoolers are not like this. Have a great night Rebekah.

  • I think if I ever put my kids in public school, or back to the University Model School ( wich I am seriously thinking for fall ’10) I will be like you Rachelle, you are so involved with your boys. I think you are awsome mother to them!

  • Good grief, it’s a shame you’re kidding about the “sprinkling vs immersion”, because growing up in the Church of Christ, at least 1/4 of the sermons were on that topic. You could really stir up a hornet’s nest if you started on religion!

  • Debra Cripps:

    Oh how I agree with you! You write so well I could never get it across like you do. Thanks for the insight.

  • Heather:

    I don’t see how your rant about homeschoolers and your lumping all homeschoolers together is any different then what the homeschoolers you talk about are doing. You are both being intolerant and prejudice.

    • I am intolerant of the intolerant. Do you not see the difference?

  • Tamatha:

    After getting over the surprise of reading two non-politically correct posts in a row I’ve been sorting through ideas…these posts have definitely stirred a lot of ideas and feelings from people from all walks of life.

    First, why is it so shocking when you read an opinion that hasn’t been massaged into being politically correct? Nevertheless, it is surprising to find such vehement, verbose, decisive (and divisive) arguments presented without thought to the other side. (I wondered briefly if your website had been hacked.)

    I think ultimately what surprised me about your arguments, Rechelle, is that they’re simply not educated. That your experience has been with obviously crappy homeschoolers is no excuse to generalize, compartmentalize, and otherwise judge an educational approach on the whole. That you’ve found ostracizing and judgmental websites and blogs doesn’t mean these character traits are requirements for all homeschoolers. If we were left to live life by stereotypes, outdated ideas, and narcissistic reasoning we’d be unable to phone one another, fly in an airplane, or light our homes (all inventions invented by homeschoolers).

    We do have an obligation to make things better in our lives, yet I do not hold this obligation at the cost of my children’s education. As I wouldn’t allow my children to be seat-belt testers or vaccination guinea pigs, I won’t allow them to endure an education that categorically isn’t correct for them. Of course, what’s right for my children may not necessarily be correct for yours. Thank God we live in a country where choice is a democratic right. (Think of Afghanistan where education is categorically denied to girls because of generalized thinking and religious intolerance.)

    My children have been home schooled, publicly schooled, and attended English boarding school (as day students). Their most enlightening year was most likely the year we homeschooled while in Thailand. They met and befriended people of all ages from all walks of life. They didn’t spend nine months with 20 children the same age as they were, of the same socio-economic status, with the same learning plan regardless of ability. That year is something I’ve tried to emulate, regardless of which school system we were utilizing; learning happens everywhere, and you wouldn’t believe the people you meet when you step outside of a classroom.

    Finally, I’d like to say as a public school, second-grade teacher, when you read a book to your child, you’re teaching. If you’ve ever had a conversation about something miraculous you’ve seen, you’re teaching. Have you ever wondered aloud to your child? You’re fostering learning. We’re all homeschoolers to one degree or another. While I can’t discount your personal revelations I don’t think you did enough research on the other, positive attributes of homeschooling. That the other side was discounted so thoroughly is what is shocking about this post, and frankly, even if one of my second-graders came up with an expository essay that discounted another point of view without merit I’d have them rewrite without fail.
    (But I do enjoy your writing…just curious as to the uneven approach on this post.)

  • MichelleG:

    Just curious as to whether your sister and Ree get lumped in with all the other evil homeschoolers…

  • km:

    happy liberal here Heidi, not offended by your Christian values. Not every liberal is . Can you elaborate?

  • Won’t enter into the homeschool v. public debate. I have my opinion, you have yours, we CAN all get along.

    However, simply based on the small snippet of conversation you quoted in the beginning…..I REALLY think he just thought your children were different from the other public school children on his team because your children don’t cuss alot (like the other children on his team).

    I think you are the one who turned it into a “one is better or worse” argument.

    Anyway….love your blog.

  • I’ve noticed people who are very into their religion seem a lot MORE judgmental than others. Wonder why that is?

  • Hallie:

    Another honest posting—thanks.